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#1 Lil' Kazu

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Posted 01 May 2017 - 04:57 PM

Smashing Pumpkins front man and former TNA Wrestling President Billy Corgan has agreed in principle to purchase the National Wrestling Alliance, PWInsider.com has confirmed with multiple sources.   The deal in place would see Corgan purchase the name, rights, trademarks to the NWA as well as the rights and possession of the NWA championship belt.
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A number of questions remain as the deal closes including what does new ownership mean for the current NWA member promotions and what would this mean for the NWA on Demand Video service.  Of course, the biggest question revolves around what exactly Corgan's plans for the National Wrestling Alliance will be.
 
We will have to wait for those answers as attempts by PWInsider.com to reach Corgan for comment have, thus far, been unsuccessful.

 

http://www.pwinsider...e.php?id=109356

 

Well, this is interesting.

 

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Posted 01 May 2017 - 05:10 PM

Holy shit



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Posted 01 May 2017 - 06:26 PM

Interesting



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Posted 01 May 2017 - 06:35 PM

I think he did more good than bad for TNA, so I look forward to seeing what he can do.

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Posted 01 May 2017 - 07:27 PM

I think he did more good than bad for TNA, so I look forward to seeing what he can do.

 

Besides, NWA is doing jack shit all without him anyway. What's the last time they were truly relevant? 2007 in TNA? Maybe 2008 in ROH. There's really nothing that Corgan could do at this point to harm NWA, considering that it's already at the bottom of the barrel. 

 

I'm hoping that he somehow gets a television deal and decides to go head to head with TNA, purely out of spite. WWE might be too big to fail at this point, and therefore not capable of a proper 'Monday Night War' ever again...but TNA vs NWA could certainly prove interesting...especially with the history. TNA vs NWA...the Thursday Night Slapfight. I'm down.


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Posted 01 May 2017 - 07:28 PM

I hope he can actually get the NWA back on track. I just took a look at their current champions and... lol



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Posted 01 May 2017 - 07:37 PM

He's going to need to make his own stars for the most part...because pretty much all of the people who would make really good free agents are already taken. But, it will be possible. The indy scene is flush with awesome talents that are being underutilized. If he can take some of those people and help them actually make names for themselves, then he'll be in business. But it will be a struggle at first. Ryback might be a solid "world famous" name to grab, if possible. I feel like he would have that draw that would get people interested, and then he could focus on said building of other stars once he has people's attention.

 

Either way, he has two things going for him...1) The name value associated with NWA. 2) He's famous, so he has friends in high places. - If he can make both of those things work for him, then I think he has a proper shot. He loves wrestling, he's passionate about ownership. He isn't just doing it to make money. All of those things are fantastic for us. 



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Posted 01 May 2017 - 07:45 PM

 

I think he did more good than bad for TNA, so I look forward to seeing what he can do.

 

Besides, NWA is doing jack shit all without him anyway. What's the last time they were truly relevant? 2007 in TNA? Maybe 2008 in ROH. There's really nothing that Corgan could do at this point to harm NWA, considering that it's already at the bottom of the barrel. 

 

I'm hoping that he somehow gets a television deal and decides to go head to head with TNA, purely out of spite. WWE might be too big to fail at this point, and therefore not capable of a proper 'Monday Night War' ever again...but TNA vs NWA could certainly prove interesting...especially with the history. TNA vs NWA...the Thursday Night Slapfight. I'm down.

 

 

If he wants to compete with TNA, do what they are doing and make deals with international promotions.  There are a few Japanese promotions that they can make deals with like Dragon Gate, All Japan and Wrestle-1 with the latter two having ties to the NWA.



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Posted 01 May 2017 - 08:00 PM

Also, according to wikipedia (not sure if accurate or not) R. Bruce Tharpe is still the president. I've always been a bit unclear about how presidents and owners work. Is it one of those situations where the president makes the day to day decisions, but the owner can say "nope, we're not doing that" if he has different ideas?


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Posted 01 May 2017 - 08:05 PM

Also, according to wikipedia (not sure if accurate or not) R. Bruce Tharpe is still the president. I've always been a bit unclear about how presidents and owners work. Is it one of those situations where the president makes the day to day decisions, but the owner can say "nope, we're not doing that" if he has different ideas?

The owner simply owns the company. The president and leader boards make all the decisions. They obviously have to please the owner, so that they can still access the money and everything. But overall the owner isn't really in a controlling role, if there's a president and/or a leader board.



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Posted 01 May 2017 - 08:08 PM

 

Smashing Pumpkins front man and former TNA Wrestling President Billy Corgan has agreed in principle to purchase the National Wrestling Alliance, PWInsider.com has confirmed with multiple sources.   The deal in place would see Corgan purchase the name, rights, trademarks to the NWA as well as the rights and possession of the NWA championship belt.

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A number of questions remain as the deal closes including what does new ownership mean for the current NWA member promotions and what would this mean for the NWA on Demand Video service.  Of course, the biggest question revolves around what exactly Corgan's plans for the National Wrestling Alliance will be.
 
We will have to wait for those answers as attempts by PWInsider.com to reach Corgan for comment have, thus far, been unsuccessful.
 

http://www.pwinsider...e.php?id=109356

 

Well, this is interesting.

 

 

 

This is possibly the last chance we could get to see WWE up their game and make things interesting.
 



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Posted 01 May 2017 - 08:12 PM

 

Also, according to wikipedia (not sure if accurate or not) R. Bruce Tharpe is still the president. I've always been a bit unclear about how presidents and owners work. Is it one of those situations where the president makes the day to day decisions, but the owner can say "nope, we're not doing that" if he has different ideas?

The owner simply owns the company. The president and leader boards make all the decisions. They obviously have to please the owner, so that they can still access the money and everything. But overall the owner isn't really in a controlling role, if there's a president and/or a leader board.

 

 

But, the owner can decide to fire the president and hire a yes-man, could he not? Doesn't a president essentially just become a yes-man to the owner if he wants to remain employed?


This is possibly the last chance we could get to see WWE up their game and make things interesting.

 

And this dude clearly missed where I said that WWE was too big to fail and would never be a part of another television ratings war ever again. :lol:



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Posted 01 May 2017 - 08:17 PM

 

 

Also, according to wikipedia (not sure if accurate or not) R. Bruce Tharpe is still the president. I've always been a bit unclear about how presidents and owners work. Is it one of those situations where the president makes the day to day decisions, but the owner can say "nope, we're not doing that" if he has different ideas?

The owner simply owns the company. The president and leader boards make all the decisions. They obviously have to please the owner, so that they can still access the money and everything. But overall the owner isn't really in a controlling role, if there's a president and/or a leader board.

 

 

But, the owner can decide to fire the president and hire a yes-man, could he not? Doesn't a president essentially just become a yes-man to the owner if he wants to remain employed?

 

 

That depends on how the company is run.

 

Usually owners can't just straight up fire the assigned leaders if they want to. Mostly because of contracts with safety measures to prevent that exact thing from happening. There are some exceptions, but these companies usually don't really last long.

 

After all running a company is not easy and not everything is suited to do so. It's like hotels have an owner and a manager, with the manager hiring staff and doing basically everything, with the owner only providing the resources.


Edited by Vinsmoker, 01 May 2017 - 08:18 PM.


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Posted 01 May 2017 - 08:20 PM

After all running a company is not easy and not everything is suited to do so. It's like hotels have an owner and a manager, with the manager hiring staff and doing basically everything, with the owner only providing the resources.

 

But a hotel/restaurant owner can fire the managers. :lol:

 

But, nah...I get what you're saying.



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Posted 01 May 2017 - 11:38 PM

 

I think he did more good than bad for TNA, so I look forward to seeing what he can do.

 

Besides, NWA is doing jack shit all without him anyway. What's the last time they were truly relevant? 2007 in TNA? Maybe 2008 in ROH. There's really nothing that Corgan could do at this point to harm NWA, considering that it's already at the bottom of the barrel. 

 

They had their belts defended in New Japan as late as 2015, I don't know how their partnership worked, though.



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Posted 01 May 2017 - 11:44 PM

Ice Cube will not be happy about this



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Posted 02 May 2017 - 01:08 AM

I know CMLL has a few "historic" NWA belts that get defended every few weeks there but I don't know if they are legit or not?



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Posted 02 May 2017 - 01:23 AM

I know CMLL has a few "historic" NWA belts that get defended every few weeks there but I don't know if they are legit or not?

 

Seems to me like those belts are not actually associated with NWA, and are just belts to commemorate the relationship that CMLL once had with the National Wrestling Association...but, yeah...I don't really know either.



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Posted 02 May 2017 - 04:44 AM

I know CMLL has a few "historic" NWA belts that get defended every few weeks there but I don't know if they are legit or not?

they used to be Partners with the NWA, but then that ended and CMLL kept the titles anyway, although these were never seen as World titles by the NWA

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Posted 02 May 2017 - 05:08 AM

The belts CMLL has are I believe the light-heavyweight title, and if they did have a partnership then there's those belts are legit. In any case, the best thing Corgan could do is as others already said, build a good working partnership with other companies like CMLL and NJPW as well and then have NWA talent take on the best of those countries and put their own belts on the line and truly make them world titles. I don't think NWA can compete with WWE because there's just too big of a difference, but they can surely compete against an actual "wrestling" company, one that prioritizes wrestling over "entertainment".