1okr Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 TNA Wrestling programming is being canceled in the United States for the second straight year as Destination America officials have made the decision to cancel Impact Wrestling and all other shows from the Nashville, Tennessee-based company. This is according to Dave Meltzer in this week's issue of the Wrestling Observer Newsletter (published Wednesday). It was noted to Meltzer that all TNA programming will cease to air on Destination America at the end of the third quarter of the year. This is roughly the last week of September, when the current television season ends. Key people at parent company Discovery Communications were informed of the decision. Two major reasons were given for the cancellation. While Destination America officials considered the ratings for Impact Wrestling to be good, the numbers were not good enough to justify the cost of the programming. The other problem was that a number of the cable network's advertisers specifically did not want to advertise on Impact Wrestling. Finally... TNA has been on life support for the longest time. Time to pull the plug and better yet close this section Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNFNS Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 Wanting the death of a company you don't watch, makes no sense to me still. I don't watch Lucha Underground or AAA, I don't want them to die. Sad news though, hopefully they can pull through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1okr Posted May 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 The wrestlers I feel bad for. They have tremendous talent. The production crew (when paid) use this to feed their family, but the people in charge and running out don't give two squats about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulie Walnuts Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 Until this is announced by Discovery/Destination America themselves, I'll take this with a grain of salt. The reason is this, the logic for cancelling doesn't make sense, heres why...Impact Wrestling is their highest rated program by far on that station, which means its Destination America's most watched show, this is known for a fact to be true. Secondly, I don't see how so much blame can be placed on TNA in this case, Destination America is no Spike Network, it's a small station, like really small, the Discovery channel, the parent station, almost never advertise the channel itself or it's programs, so how much advertisement and revenue did they really expect TNA to draw in after it bombed on Spike TV these last few years? It seems like in order to get considerable return, the station itself, Destination America, has to grow and expand. It wasn't going to do that with TNA alone. And cable network advertisers didn't want to advertise TNA...But they want to advertise shows like Mountain Monsters and Ghost Asylum? Two shows which only see advertisement on Destination America... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1okr Posted May 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 Destination America is an odd and different channel itself. It's shows are just weird and outdated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nWo_Kevin Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 Any "smart fan" who roots for a company to die, really isn't that smart. Terrible news for the wrestling industry and for the wrestlers. A company that was able to get 1 million views on one network and still get 500,000+ views on another means more people watching wrestling and that's always a positive no matter if "you" enjoy the product or not. This could be the end for them though, without a TV deal you really don't have anything. I've said it in a previous post about them possibly going overseas in the UK and working there as they seem to be extremely popular. Hope it works out for them though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernez Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 Until this is announced by Discovery/Destination America themselves, I'll take this with a grain of salt. The reason is this, the logic for cancelling doesn't make sense, heres why...Impact Wrestling is their highest rated program by far on that station, which means its Destination America's most watched show, this is known for a fact to be true. Secondly, I don't see how so much blame can be placed on TNA in this case, Destination America is no Spike Network, it's a small station, like really small, the Discovery channel, the parent station, almost never advertise the channel itself or it's programs, so how much advertisement and revenue did they really expect TNA to draw in after it bombed on Spike TV these last few years? It seems like in order to get considerable return, the station itself, Destination America, has to grow and expand. It wasn't going to do that with TNA alone. And cable network advertisers didn't want to advertise TNA...But they want to advertise shows like Mountain Monsters and Ghost Asylum? Two shows which only see advertisement on Destination America... Not saying these reports are real, but was reading earlier that according to statistics, TNA isn't even close to being their highest rated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generations Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 TNA dying would be the best thing for any wrestling fan, tbh. WWE is actually doing a really great job of handling their talents right now, and there are still a few guys from the TNA roster who would be great additions to the WWE/NXT. Why have TNA stick around just for the sake of sticking around, when we could see some of those talents go on to WWE and have the careers that they deserve? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classiq. Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 Sad but inevitable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crack. Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 We've been here before. Can't say I'm surprised in the slightest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePrinceOliver Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 I enjoyed TNA's product so much before that it hurts to see them go like this, especially when they are showcasing extremely talented guys like Drew and company but if they'll go, let them go out with style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirky Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 Been a long time coming tbh. I just hope WWE take a bunch of their talents (though some are unlikely I know) and spread them between NXT and the main roster. Brooke, Taryn, Bobby Roode, James Storm, MVP, Jeff Hardy, Matt Hardy, Lashley and The Wolves are who I'd like to see given a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyriqz ✪ Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 I'm fully in favor of this if it meants EC3 and Sam Shaw come to LU. Would like to see Low-Ki in PWG too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushy. Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 Lmfao! That dude Starlord was right. Holy shit this was so random. Damn they didn't even wait until the contract expired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturi Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 I really hope they will stick around, even if it would be the iPPV way. There are several other promotions that are doing well without a TV deal. Funny also how some People wanting a Promotion to shut down only to see talents that shone there, go to wwe to Job their heart out or get misused like several others in the wwe currently. WWE is not everything, even if it's on TV. In my opinion the WWE is a half arshed product with a Management that got overfeed and got VERY lazy because there is no real competition to them in the meantime. That's why they Keep getting worse and worse in their programming in the first place, because they know most People or at least the General fan will tune in because there is barely any alternative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEGION Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 ^ TNA is even worse though. Half of their roster from last year turned from heel to face last year and vice versa, same five storylines every few months and no actual concept behind the shows or TNA specials. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulie Walnuts Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 Until this is announced by Discovery/Destination America themselves, I'll take this with a grain of salt. The reason is this, the logic for cancelling doesn't make sense, heres why...Impact Wrestling is their highest rated program by far on that station, which means its Destination America's most watched show, this is known for a fact to be true. Secondly, I don't see how so much blame can be placed on TNA in this case, Destination America is no Spike Network, it's a small station, like really small, the Discovery channel, the parent station, almost never advertise the channel itself or it's programs, so how much advertisement and revenue did they really expect TNA to draw in after it bombed on Spike TV these last few years? It seems like in order to get considerable return, the station itself, Destination America, has to grow and expand. It wasn't going to do that with TNA alone. And cable network advertisers didn't want to advertise TNA...But they want to advertise shows like Mountain Monsters and Ghost Asylum? Two shows which only see advertisement on Destination America... Not saying these reports are real, but was reading earlier that according to statistics, TNA isn't even close to being their highest rated.Don't know how accurate those statistics are, especially when you add "isn't even close"... http://www.wrestlingnewsworld.com/impact-audience-increases-2/ Destination Americas highest rated program throughout its history, disregarding TNA, had 535,000 viewers, that was an episode of "Buying Alaska", and that program normally averages 100,000-200,000 viewers weekly. Which is equal to Destination America's "top programs", who also average around 200,000 viewers per week. As seen, TNA consistently exceeded that. And here's this article from the 17th of April which states it as the networks highest rated show... http://www.inquisitr.com/2017834/tna-news-huge-update-on-tna-pay-issues-destination-america-now-massively-down-on-impact-wrestling-show/ And as of April 8th, 2015, Destination America recorded its best quarter ever, and that was in thanks to TNA. Not to mention with all that said, TNA lost over half its viewership with the switch to Destination America. Lmfao! That dude Starlord was right. Holy shit this was so random. Damn they didn't even wait until the contract expired. Discovery has yet to announce anything though, this is all coming from Meltzer. And according to him, the show will be canceled at the end of September, which IS when their current contract expires. Just sayin'. ^ TNA is even worse though. Half of their roster from last year turned from heel to face last year and vice versa, same five storylines every few months and no actual concept behind the shows or TNA specials. Wait what ? Lockdown isn't a concept? The key matches taking place in a six sided cell like structure isn't a concept for a TNA special? Or the Knockout Only shows, which to my surprise seem to do extremely well, those aren't actual concepts for TNA specials? Feast Or Fired is even a TNA special based around a concept, as is Destination X. What are the same five storylines they repeat every few months? And half their roster made alignment changes throughout the year, and so has WWE's. Sooo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEGION Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 Wait what ? Lockdown isn't a concept? The key matches taking place in a six sided cell like structure isn't a concept for a TNA special? Or the Knockout Only shows, which to my surprise seem to do extremely well, those aren't actual concepts for TNA specials? Feast Or Fired is even a TNA special based around a concept, as is Destination X. What are the same five storylines they repeat every few months? And half their roster made alignment changes throughout the year, and so has WWE's. Sooo... Concept...as in basic concept of a wrestling program For example... Flagship show: Wednesday Night Impact Wrestling (Fixed day. Won't change ever.) TNA Special Episode: Every 3 Months - Live epsiodes(Like Hardcore Justice, etc.). A lot of their original match-concepts are pretty awesome. They're just random as hell. TNA PPV: Every 4 Months on Sunday Secondary Show: Xplosions - Every Friday night on TNA.com Tapings: No tapings that cover TNA special episodes or TNA show AFTER the PPVs Divisions or nah?: Is their a proper KO division or are all these women on this ONO show really just here for ONO? What is this X-Division you always talk about Destination X and where is it throughout the rest of the year? Four teams don't make a tag-division. The Ring: Six or four sides? Or ist different from tapings to tapings? In TNA that all appears to be random and without any actual structure. Five storylines: Faction War: One faction tries to take over as heels. A face faction appears to face them. After the heel faction is over, the face faction turns heel. Repeat. Beloved Babyface turns into THE biggest heel of them all: James Storm, Bully Ray, Jeff Hardy, Eric Young, Bobby Roode, Chris Sabin, etc. THE top heel turns face again (despise literally threatening the lives of children etc.): Bobby Roode, Austin Aries, Bully Ray, Abyss, AJ Styles, Samoa Joe, etc. Identity Crisis: Wrestler has a identity crisis, that's built up over months and months, then goes nowhere and returns/shows up as a different character. (Manik, Joseph Park, Willow, Samuel Shaw, Rob Terry, Brooke Tessmacher, etc.) ECW: New face of Hardcore wrestling (Abyss, Bram, Judas Messiah), Old face of Hardcore wrestling (Tommy *censored*ing Dreamer). There are always a few weeks when TNA suddenly turns into ECW. Even if the WWE turned more than 10 wrestlers...they don't CONSTANTLY and OVER and OVER again turn their top names heel/face. In TNA that's usually the start of their main storyline. (Bobby Lashley, Eric Young, Bobby Roode, MVP, Bully Ray, Kurt Angle, Austin Aries, Chris Sabin and I can guarantee you that Drew Galloway will either turn heel soon or leave TNA.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 The thing that hurts the most about all this is...EC3 never became world champion and I was damn sure they were gonna go down that road. He would've been the perfect final world champion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undercard Jamoke Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 I was a big TNA fan back in the day. Even though it sucks today, TNA possibly going out of business is terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RazR Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 They had a hard time getting a network deal after Spike and now this baggage with DA? No network is going to open up their arms for TNA. At this point instead of "Who do we blame?" it should be "How do we fix it and how do we rebrand ourselves." The name TNA has a bad cloud over it so it's wise to start from scratch. TNA was something Jarrett created and Dixie taking it over and making it her own did NOT work. Dixie had NO wrestling business practice, she called Mommy and Daddy to invest in TNA and then she took over. Nothing will ever be fixed if the main problem doesn't go away. It was great to see TNA run for so many years but the only thing going for it was the money. Dixie is no Vince and that's the issue we have. I'd rather have TNA start from the ground up with someone who knows about the business then have it continue on a national level with someone who has no idea what they are doing and are just looking for a profit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeansOnToast Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 If this is the end, then TNA should end with a BFG or at Slammiversary(run some specials till the contract runs out after) and Dixie should do all she can to bring in ex-talent for the final show, its the last she could do after killing the company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muur Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 Oh dear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E#37 Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 Can't say that i'm shocked after hearing about that out-clause report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNFNS Posted May 21, 2015 Report Share Posted May 21, 2015 According to Bob Ryder and Billy Corgan, things are fine. I think they released a report about the news, saying something like legal actions will be taken for the false reports or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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