TheAbyss24 Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 First I would like this topic to remain open so No Flaming!. I have been playing every wwe game since wwe attitude and starting with wwe Wrestle mania 2000 I bought every single wwe game across the N64 The Playstation 2 and the Xbox 360 and of course every game had it's disappointment's and drawbacks but I always hoped for the best and enjoyed what I got however it seem's this year for anyone on a last generation console we got the really short end of the stick. I mean realistically unless your working 2 or 3 jobs who has the extra money right now for a Ps4 or and Xbox One. Anyways back on topic when I found out 2k took out story designer I was annoyed about what got me excited again was finding out the casket match and 3 stages of hell was in there!. Then again my hope's were bashed to bits when I found out that they are only in Show case mode. That is what broke the camel's back for me I went to gamestop canceled my wwe 2k 15 pre order and bought a less scratched up version of Wwe 2k14. This is not sour group's but I feel 2k had a real chance to show their stuff and instead of picking up the ball and running with it they gutted the ball and threw it out. I just wanted to know what everyone else think's can you see where i'm coming from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbNotRob Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 I think everybody is too quick to judge 2K for their work on this series. It's not that they've done a bad job with the last-gen version of this game; it's that THQ did an absolute shitty job with their games, and this is step 1 in the process for 2K. If we don't see the next-gen version of 15 on the last-gen version of 16, or as close as possible to it, then this argument will be useful and valid. But for now, 2K is in the middle of picking up THQ's pieces, and considering that, it's not a terrible job. I'm gonna give them one more year before I start grading their work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango kid Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 so this is where we still blame thq for what 2k done this like when people blame bush for the job Obama did sorry but no the blame on 2k they just remove stuff didn't bother to fix it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liontamer* Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 We cannot base 2K's contributions based on the features in the last-gen version of the game.Even if several features need to be taken out for current-gen version in order to bring improvement to other aspects of the game, I would be fine with it. I'm not a big caw fan and for me personally gameplay comes first. I'm willing to accept any sort of improvement over the crap gameplay we've been given for the past couple of years. Speaking of which, gameplay seems to have made a BIG improvement this year for current-gen (in my opinion), That's the only big reason I'm getting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
projektk Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 A thread for this is the straw that broke the camels back. You act like WWE games never had match types exclusive to RTWM mode... Remember how pissed everyone was when special ref returned. Every feature missing from 2K15 had to do with the future. For example music, for some reason if they didn't need to code for custom music on current gen they didn't want the last gen wasting time on it anymore. But who cares its just a game and no one cares what grinds anyone's gears I'll be mad until we get unlimited caws but I'll still buy the game. 2 or 3 jobs? Really? Only a kid or possible a young adult would feel that way. It all comes down to budget and interest. Some buy ps4s some buy dodge chargers but we adults find our hobby that keeps us from killing yourself when the boss makes us mad my buddy bought a ps3 and like 30 games, plenty of money for a ps4 it just comes down to interest and budget buddy. We both have 1 job, we both started at the bottom at age 19 and now 27 we've worked our way up. Nothing hard about that think positive and move on. The camels back never broke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEGION Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 Aren't there already like 10 topics in this section where people say that 2k is the cause for World War III? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoned Clown Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 Gameplay is the most important thing, everything else is bells and whistles. Showcase/MyCareer/Universe/Exhibition are the nothing more than the reason for a match. The entrance is only the loading screen to the match. What matters is the match itself, the gameplay is the life of all games and we knew before launch that the gameplay differences would be day & night. Removed features suck, lack of additions suck more as those are the distractions that disguise the last gen version for more than a title update. The current gen system has really good gameplay, its the closet to a wrestling sim I've seen/played in so long that I knew I wanted it after playing the summerslam build. This is with consideration of a weaker roster (by my tastes) and no custom themes. This is why I previously said im pretty much ignoring all last gen footage as thats not the game I'm buying. I wasn't trying to suggest current gen would have more features or modes over past gen (all though the bigger roster rumour had me thinking) I was trying to point out that the gameplay would be far better. Lots of guys here buy these games for various reasons, mine is to have decent wrestling matches. I play universe mode generally for the constant mix of matches, with the intention always being to have a good match. With that in mind when the current version comes out, I'll skip entrances & go straight to the part where you play the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForeignSperg Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 What a dumb overreaction. It's not like those matches are in 2K14 either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuisTX85 Posted October 26, 2014 Report Share Posted October 26, 2014 I have to agree with the clown and that was always my point of view. The bad stuff with last gen has given me very mixed feelings but I should have avoided more of it too since I'm getting the PS4 version and yeah gameplay has always been my main focus.One reason why I always get any wrestling game is because of wrestling in the gameplay and not fancy features and I even mostly play exhibition or online anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astro Zombie Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 As others have said, they only have a certain amount of time and money to produce a game. Current-gen is clearly where the majority of the resources went, which is a smart move because X1/PS4 will be around for the next 7-10 years while 360/PS3 will be phased out in a few years for the most part. Most of what they removed doesn't really bother me, and could be justified IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow102008 Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 If the gameplay is good, I'll be happy. That's what I really care about. Good gameplay.Plus, I'd rather place a next gen, new WWE game then continue to play the old one for a while extra year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtfismook Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 You are all blaming the wrong person. 2K's only sin is continuing with Yukes as developer. Yukes is to blame for complacency. When Yukes and AKI had to compete for THQ's attention from 98-01, wrestling games were good. Smackdown 2 still has that amazing career mode, and No Mercy is still the high water mark for north american wrestling games. Since AKI unfairly got the short end of the stick being blamed for the fact that the N64 had a smaller install base than the PSX, Yukes has been on autopilot doing the bare minimum. 2K just never took the license away from Yukes and Yukes kept churning out subpar content that still sold very well based on the license. in fact, it sold so well Yukes was able to BUY NJPW. WTF. I thought that since this year 2K was moving on with Visual concepts as the main developer that Yukes would create a definitive wrestling game just to show their employer they still knew how to make good wrestling games. Sadly, they phoned it in once more. The games won't change until Yukes is removed from the license once and for all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow102008 Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 You are all blaming the wrong person. 2K's only sin is continuing with Yukes as developer. Yukes is to blame for complacency. When Yukes and AKI had to compete for THQ's attention from 98-01, wrestling games were good. Smackdown 2 still has that amazing career mode, and No Mercy is still the high water mark for north american wrestling games. Since AKI unfairly got the short end of the stick being blamed for the fact that the N64 had a smaller install base than the PSX, Yukes has been on autopilot doing the bare minimum. 2K just never took the license away from Yukes and Yukes kept churning out subpar content that still sold very well based on the license. in fact, it sold so well Yukes was able to BUY NJPW. WTF. I thought that since this year 2K was moving on with Visual concepts as the main developer that Yukes would create a definitive wrestling game just to show their employer they still knew how to make good wrestling games. Sadly, they phoned it in once more. The games won't change until Yukes is removed from the license once and for all. Until XB1/PS4 version comes out, I don't think anyone should be blamed. It's a fact that last gen always gets the short end of the stick when new tech comes out, not sure why everyone is so shocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarGreymon77 Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 You know, every year with THQ I was always like "Man, I'm not gonna buy the game this year. After what they pulled last year..." And then they would surprise me at the last minute with some kind of hook or gimmick to reel me back in. The roster for 2K14, for example. I kept waiting for something similar this year, but instead I'm given more and more reasons not to buy the game. In the words of Angry Joe, "You done *censored*ed it up," 2K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Dreadful Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 You know, every year with THQ I was always like "Man, I'm not gonna buy the game this year. After what they pulled last year..." And then they would surprise me at the last minute with some kind of hook or gimmick to reel me back in. The roster for 2K14, for example. I kept waiting for something similar this year, but instead I'm given more and more reasons not to buy the game. In the words of Angry Joe, "You done *censored*ed it up," 2K. agreed. im not impressed with the mass butchering Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hylton Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 I can't afford a PS4 right now and there's no way I'm gonna play without custom music. So I'll see you guys next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RnC Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 It isn't good that 2K dropped the ball THIS badly - crap roster, removal of modes etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAbyss24 Posted October 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 I'm happy to report after I canceled my pre order I got handed back my $63 dollars in cash not only did I buy a brand sparkling new game of wwe 2k14 which I may add I play for many hour's at a time. But I also bought wwe Smackdown vs Raw 2011 for my psp. And was able to host a pizza party for my friend's tonight while we watched Wwe Hell In a Cell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuisTX85 Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 What's breaking for me is my spirit for a new wrestling game I always have here every year soon before release day. It's becoming overwhelming between the reveal of the last gen version,2K being quite this weekend,huge surge of backlash more than ever brewing,heated user debates,heavy speculations,extreme 2K bashings and completely giving up on the game before the other version is out. I'm just going to read and see any news related to the current gen version and ignore everything else going on,Then I'll see what I'll do once I get the game myself on PS4. I'm getting it no matter what because I always get any wrestling game and because it may be my last one(thinking of leaving gaming next year) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thriller Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 It is pretty unbelievable how the last gen version stacks up to previous iterations. The models look ridiculously bad, lots of removed content (imo the removal of story designer is just unacceptable), stripped down roster that they didn't even have the decency to announce in full. Everyone was expecting WWE 2K14.5 but that would have been an upgrade over what they did release. I was never planning on getting the last gen version anyways but I do think they need to be held accountable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSmileySmile Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 They won't be though. Tons of people already making excuses for them. 2K14 wasn't completely theirs. 2K15 will become a "transition year" or "their first effort" so it will only be reasonable to wait for 2K16 to judge them. 2K16 will then be seen as a "good step forward" and that BS will continue along in the same way it did for THQ and this previous generation. THQ managed to milk that for an entire console generation. 2K looks set to give the ghost of THQ a run for it's money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarGreymon77 Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 They deserve to lose some money on this shit. And if I'm this mad, hoo boy, just wait til the masses get ahold of this game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAbyss24 Posted October 27, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 The problem with 2k is they made the exact same mistake as Thq did. When you have something that sell's to all your audience don't kill the small stuff trying to sell to the bigger group of people make it appealing to everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nba2kfanman Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 To call this another version of 2k14 was very misleading by people who kept mum about the game for last gen. I'm still shocked about the removal of features. I expected a port of 2k14 but this was definitely extreme. I'm still planning on picking up my pre-order for last gen. I never saw an issue with gameplay and quite honestly, adding new animations and a new mini game is not an improvement in gameplay in my opinion. Thq have went with a similar route in 2008 with the gameplay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoned Clown Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 I'm still looking forward to the current gen version, I already knew the last gen version would be weaker, at best a reskin of last years title. I'm looking forward to finally having decent matches when I play these games instead if feeling bored after an hour of the same thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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