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#881 Generations

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Posted 19 April 2019 - 05:02 PM

 

A counter point is that idk who 90% of the roster is.

 

I could give you the half-dozen Fire Emblem characters that nobody uses (I still don't know why there are so damn many in the game)...but, if you actually don't know 90%, then you just don't know video games. 

 

Anyway, I'm still a holdout for Sora. It would be a perfect time to be like "We're releasing re-masters of the original KH games on Switch, and Sora is coming to Smash". 

 

I don't think we'll get Master Chief, because even though MS and Nintendo have a strong relationship now, that still seems like a stretch. Maybe Steve from Minecraft...but probably not Master Chief. - If I could pick the remaining slots, three of them would definitely be Sora, Steve, and Prince of the Cosmos from Katamari Damacy. 


Edited by Generations, 19 April 2019 - 05:08 PM.


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Posted 19 April 2019 - 05:04 PM

 

 

A counter point is that idk who 90% of the roster is.

 

I could give you the half-dozen Fire Emblem characters that nobody uses (I still don't know why there are so damn many in the game)...but, if you actually don't know 90%, then you just don't know video games. 

 

come on! Not everyone can know about these Digi-Mons!



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Posted 20 April 2019 - 12:27 PM

 

 

A counter point is that idk who 90% of the roster is.

 

I could give you the half-dozen Fire Emblem characters that nobody uses (I still don't know why there are so damn many in the game)...but, if you actually don't know 90%, then you just don't know video games. 

 

Anyway, I'm still a holdout for Sora. It would be a perfect time to be like "We're releasing re-masters of the original KH games on Switch, and Sora is coming to Smash". 

 

I don't think we'll get Master Chief, because even though MS and Nintendo have a strong relationship now, that still seems like a stretch. Maybe Steve from Minecraft...but probably not Master Chief. - If I could pick the remaining slots, three of them would definitely be Sora, Steve, and Prince of the Cosmos from Katamari Damacy. 

 

Sakurai's a FE fanboy + marketing + timing. Corrin was added specifically to advertise Fates, and Awakening saved the franchise. 

 

I highly doubt we'll get Sora just because Disney, and outside of Fire Emblem, Nintendo and more specifically Sakurai really don't seem to factor marketing into character decisions that much, especially for 3rd parties. Hell, we're only just now getting FF7 on Switch despite Cloud coming to Smash years ago.

 

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Edited by God of Lightning, 20 April 2019 - 01:23 PM.


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Posted 21 April 2019 - 04:07 AM

90% is an exaggeration, it's prob closer to 50% or even less than that. But this game seems to have a lot of dead series in it

 

also, I thought "plauteuna" was some fire emblem girl. seemed like it lol

 

also not sure what the point of saying digimon was but you do you

 

persona has actually outsold FE by far. and most series in smash too



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Posted 21 April 2019 - 10:52 PM

also not sure what the point of saying digimon was but you do you


All of these years and you're still lost on Legion's humor :(

Alot of people have heard of Persona but don't have the slightest clue about any of it. Top selling JRPG aside, it's still a niche thing not everybody is down for. Your defense of the series is borderline adorable

These Nintendo characters, a great deal of them, are household names and you don't even have to play games to know the mainstays. The countless number of people, including myself, that didn't even know Joker had a name until this reveal even happened lets you know just how popular outside of any JRPG community he, or anybody from that series, actually is

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Posted 22 April 2019 - 02:22 AM

90% was an exaggeration. 

 

The ones I am/was unaware of:

 

Ness, Ice Climbers, Sheik, Falco, Marth, Lucina, Roy, Mr Game Watch, Meta Knight, Ike, Lucas, King Dedede, Olimar, Wolf, Little Mac (although I know what Punch Out is, not who the playable guy is I guess), Palutena, Robin, Shulk, Corrin, Ridley, Simon, Richter

 

theyre who IDK

 

as for sales, Persona is close to ten million and has sold a lot more than most franchises in this game. 

 

I just find it funny so many people on forums and such are all "who is this guy, I've never heard of him so that must mean no one has" when in reality they just know Nitendo stuff, and its one of the top rated PS franchises. 

 

 The countless number of people, including myself, that didn't even know Joker had a name until this reveal even happened lets you know just how popular outside of any JRPG community he, or anybody from that series, actually is

 

 

shame they don't use his actual name in the game, but I guess Red doesn't have his name either.

 

At least Yu Narukamii and Miikoto Yuki made it too tho

 

and again, those "countless numbers" are just because theyre Nintendo fans. If Persona was a Nintendo franchise, no one would act this way lol. if it does get a port to Switch, it'd prob win the 2019 Switch game of the year award


Edited by Muur, 22 April 2019 - 02:26 AM.


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Posted 24 April 2019 - 03:43 AM

I'm fairly certain a large amount of those sales come from P4 and it's spinoffs and close to 10 million is nothing in the grand scheme of things. P5 on it's own is only over 2 million and I think that's one of if not the best selling ATLUS games. A large portion of those characters (like Metroid and Castlevania) are icons whose legacies extent well beyond just the sales of their games. Hell, MetroidVania is a damn genre. Not to mention you have characters like Captain Falcon whose legacy is largely based around Smash and Brawl, Smash 4, and Ultimate have all individually sold more than the entire Persona series combined. Same goes for Ice Climbers and Game & Watch.

 

Marth and Roy in Melee introduced a shit ton of people to Fire Emblem and the Awakening characters are from the game that saved the franchise and made it one of Nintendo's top series.

 

Kirby and Meta Knight are not only Sakurai's creations, but from another top Nintendo franchise + an anime that ran for a good while on 4kids.

 

Shiek is from one of the most highly praised video games of all time. You not knowing who these characters are really says more about you than those games.

 

Also, define most. Just from a few random google searches, you have stuff like Duck Hunt and Wii Fit (individual games) selling more than the entirety of Persona. Metroid and Kirby also have it beat. Then there's the obvious stuff. From the little bit I've seen, the only stuff Persona's outdoing is the newer series with not that many games like Xenoblade or Bayonetta and some of the dormant stuff stuff that hasn't have a game in over a decade

 

Series that've sold more than Persona

-Mario

-Pokemon

-Zelda

-Kirby 

-Metroid

-Street Fighter

-Metal Gear

-Sonic

-Megaman

-Mii series

-Wii Fit

-Duck Hunt

-Donkey Kong

-*censored*ing Splatoon with just 2 games

-Yoshi

-Animal Crossing

-Final Fantasy (the 2nd biggest JRPG franchise on the planet behind Pokemon)

-Pac-Man

-CastleVania

Yeah that's nowhere near "most"

 

As for other JRPG, it's a niche genre with only a few heavy hitters, and even then, Persona isn't even in the top 5. Main series Pokemon games individually outsell the entire Persona franchise. Then you have Final Fantasy, Tales, Dragon Quest, and Kingdom Hearts.

 


Edited by God of Lightning, 24 April 2019 - 04:12 AM.


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Posted 24 April 2019 - 03:33 PM

So Joker is fun af to play as.

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Posted 26 April 2019 - 09:20 PM

Mii swordfighter i the only character im good at tbh

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Posted 26 April 2019 - 11:02 PM

Finally starting to be some cool stages made. Actually some really impressive ones based on what the limitations are...

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Posted 25 June 2019 - 02:54 AM

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And does anyone have the "Aqua Konosuba" stage?