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Kevin Steen Jay Lethal ROH World Title Match

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#1 King Nova

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 05:55 PM

Crowd booed, chanted for refunds and hurled bottles into the ring. Alleged ”*censored* THIS COMPANY” chants broke-out.

ROH World Title Match: Kevin Steen © vs. Jay lethal went to a no contest at about 35-minutes.

”For as many Steen shirts I saw throughout the night, Jay Lethal had the crowd 85-15 in favor of him. This match was incredible and got a ton of time. Crowd was alive for the whole match which is expected. Lethal hit the Lethal Injection on Steen, but Steen kicked out and then would later hit the Lethal Injection, but Steen rolled out of the ring. This is where it all went wrong. After Steen rolls out of the ring, he goes into one of the corner barricades where Jay Lethal’s parents are sitting. He starts talking a bit of trash and then Lethal’s mom throws her soda in his face. Steen spits on her and that’s when Lethal went chaotic. Jay starts pounding on Steen as Cornette (who was at ringside for this match), Corino & Jacobs, ring crew, and
others start to break things up. Of course there were pull-away, someone escapes and attacks the other moments. Steen goes up the ramp and starts tearing down the curtain and then exits with the rest of Scum. Lethal throws one of the ring crew guys and referees, chairs; he just goes ballistic. He yells at Cornette (couldn’t make out what he was saying) and then escorts his parents out of the building. He comes back to ringside and nothing’s happening. EXTREMELY loud “Bulls***” chants as Lethal proceeds up the ramp. No one knows what’s going on until Bobby Cruise goes on the microphone and announces that the match is ruled a No Contest, apologizes for the language exchanged by Steen and Lethal, and reminds the fans that tickets are on sale for Final Battle in New York City.

That’s when the crowd starts rebelling. More “Bulls***” chants and a ton of bottles and trash start getting thrown into the ring. People start chanting “REFUND! REFUND!” as Cornette and company exit. I saw a few people trying to throw chairs into the ringside area as well. I overheard fans saying “F this company”, “I’m done” as well as other expletive filled rants. NO ONE was happy with this ending and honestly, I was too. How does Ring of Honor think that having a No Contest result with the hometown boy in the World Title match will be good business? Everyone left with a negative attitude and ROH’s “build” to a possible Steen/Lethal rematch at Final Battle has completely backfired.

Overall, although I enjoyed the show, I and everyone in attendance were left with a VERY bad taste in our mouths. I really just don’t understand the logic of doing that finish in Jay Lethal’s backyard. I honestly can’t imagine ROH running this market for awhile after the finish (or lack thereof) of the main event.”


Edited by Alex Nova, 07 October 2012 - 05:55 PM.


#2 Clique

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 06:02 PM

I'm guessing it's all a work, but I'd be mad too.

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 06:22 PM

It doesn't even sound that bad. What more did they want? 35 Minutes of great wrestling wasn't good enough for them? It even says in the report that "the match was incredible and got a ton of time". That's all that matters. The people got their money's worth, so they can shut the hell up. These are probably the same ones that will go on a tirade about how much better WWE is, even though every other match they do ends in a no contest. It's so hypocritical. These people may have been walking out of the building bitching for a refund and saying "fuck this company", but that's only because they don't have the balls to admit that they got worked. It's as simple as that. The bad guy got their goat, and they're not man enough to admit it. Getting worked and getting genuinely upset over something a heel does is nothing to be ashamed of. It's actually good. It just means that unlike in WWE, the heels are actually over the way they're supposed to be over. I commend Kevin Steen for going from the most popular wrestler on the indies to the most hated heel that can make even the most jaded smart fans into winy little marks. Steen is a legend and Jay Lethal may finally get the recognition he deserves. These people will never admit it, but they're going to spend their hard earned cash to see Jay Lethal get his revenge and kick Steen's ass. This only makes me love ROH more, and I'm anxious to see where this feud goes.

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 06:27 PM

It's a work. Steen has been impeccable with this whole "I'm going to kill Ring Of Honor" thing he's doing.

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 06:31 PM

Yep, sounds like morons complaining about something while ROH worked the hell out of them.

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 06:50 PM

Idiotic smarks are idiotic. Steen's the Anti-Christ of Pro Wrestling, so it's kind of his job to incite hatred, mischief, mayhem and chaos in general and by throwing debris in the ring, they confirmed that Steen did his job right. I did get a chuckle at the *censored* THIS COMPANY chant while Cornette was there to hear it himself.

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 07:13 PM

This is why i stopped watching ROH. Its fans have always been the *censored*ing worse. If I remember correctly two of what people consider the three greatest series of matches in ROH ended in a no contest draw. But now is not good enough? If Lethal would have won they would have complained about taking the title of Steen before the biggest show, if Steen would have won they would have complained about Lethal losing a World Title shot in his hometown.

Edited by Leonardo LunchBoX, 07 October 2012 - 07:16 PM.


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Posted 07 October 2012 - 07:38 PM

This is why i stopped watching ROH. Its fans have always been the *censored*ing worse.

To be honest, I've only had good experiences at ROH shows. For the most part I think they have a great fan base. Every show I've been to has had a raucous and enthusiastic yet very respectful audience. I've never seen anything thrown into the ring/at the wrestlers other than streamers. It really just depends on where you live and what shows you attend.

The fans in this report definitely acted like idiots, but it's not fair to generalize all ROH fans and assume they're like that. Like I said, I've attended many ROH events and don't have any bad stories. It was probably just a bad grouping of people or the guy who wrote this was exaggerating. For them to say they were also upset makes me believe they probably aren't that knowledgeable about pro wrestling and most likely weren't that big of an ROH fan to begin with. A lot of people have had an unwarranted hatred for ROH for whatever reason, and some dirt sheets have always tried to make it sound worse than it actually is. I think it's just because it's the premier indie promotion and gets so much praise. It's the same reason why some fans have always called wrestlers like Davey Richards or Bryan Danielson overrated. When something is critically acclaimed or popular, people refuse to believe the hype because they want to feel like they're smarter or more on the fringe than the average person. They're basically hipster wrestling fans.

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 10:16 PM

I also think a lot of the rage coming from these fans is due to the fact that the hometown hero Jay Lethal didnt get the title. Which can be understandable. I can see why they raged sure, but there was definitely an overreaction from everyone in attendance.

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Posted 07 October 2012 - 11:49 PM

I haven't watched roh in quite a while mainly because I find pwg to be far superior in pretty much every aspect especially booking.

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Posted 08 October 2012 - 01:25 AM

I fail to see an issue here, these fans got worked to a T. It was actually perfect booking, both guys look strong, Lethal can re-enter the title picture later on from it, he's finally got some edge and character, and Steen looks like an ultra prick.

The fans should've been near rioting, but not over the Draw, it should've been in the old school way in that Steen is such a vilanous prick (kayfabe) who incited them. But rioting because it went to a draw is stupid. Complaining and getting up in arms should be saved for better things, like say, ROH's iPPV issues and their handling of that.

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 03:48 AM


This is why i stopped watching ROH. Its fans have always been the *censored*ing worse.

To be honest, I've only had good experiences at ROH shows With my blackassness.For the most part I think they have a great fan base. Every show I've been to has had a raucous and enthusiastic yet very respectful audience. I've never seen anything thrown into the ring/at the wrestlers other than streamers. It really just depends on where you live and what shows you attend.

The fans in this report definitely acted like idiots, but it's not fair to generalize all ROH fans and assume they're like that. Like I said, I've attended many ROH events and don't have any bad stories. It was probably just a bad grouping of people or the guy who wrote this was exaggerating. For them to say they were also upset makes me believe they probably aren't that knowledgeable about pro wrestling and most likely weren't that big of an ROH fan to begin with. A lot of people have had an unwarranted hatred for ROH for whatever reason, and some dirt sheets have always tried to make it sound worse than it actually is. I think it's just because it's the premier indie promotion and gets so much praise. It's the same reason why some fans have always called wrestlers like Davey Richards or Bryan Danielson overrated. When something is critically acclaimed or popular, people refuse to believe the hype because they want to feel like they're smarter or more on the fringe than the average person. They're basically hipster wrestling fans.