[Smoke.]

Zurick, on Nov 10 2008, 11:20 PM, said:

phew, rumor had it you were going to 360, I was afraid to see 64 layers of crap, but I'm glad to see you're still churning out only 32 layers of brown.

You should take people's advice on caws, seriously, they'd come out so much better if you did.

Hey man, you shouldn't be going around saying that. You should be giving advice.

[Neomic]

That last pic looks more like Tommy Chong than Goldberg.

Seriously, look up some good reference pictures on Google.

- Remorph the mouth. It's too "straight".
- Eyes are too close, he looks like he has a disability.
- Make his cheeks just a slight bit bigger. Your Goldberg face is looking a little anorexic.

[Sunnyy D.]

fix the eyes alil

[Tich]

Zurick, on Nov 11 2008, 04:20 AM, said:

phew, rumor had it you were going to 360, I was afraid to see 64 layers of crap, but I'm glad to see you're still churning out only 32 layers of brown.

You should take people's advice on caws, seriously, they'd come out so much better if you did.

why don't you take example from wolfgang and the other top caw maker and learn a bit humility......

anyway like I said I think you can make a great goldberg with that, your main problem is eyes, I tried the eyes and eyebrows formula you pm me (ps3 and 360 formula seems compatible) and you need to decrase eyes width and axe x.

you must decrease mouth angle too.

i think another face model maybe makes him a bit more chuby

i'll pm you some tweaks, and we'll see if it's better

[Stacysmikeyboy&hearts]

[Chooka_75]

Needs a lot of work man. Fatten up the cheeks, squarer jaw line, nose looks really bad. This ha a lot of potential but needs a lot of work to realize it. Go back to the ref pic you gave me...The larger, front on image where you see im fron the waist up. I been using that one...Oh and please mate, less angle on the mouth

Goldberg is a lot harder than people think....keep going mate...

[Zurick Still Saves]

Keibo, on Nov 11 2008, 01:23 AM, said:

Zurick, on Nov 11 2008, 04:20 AM, said:

phew, rumor had it you were going to 360, I was afraid to see 64 layers of crap, but I'm glad to see you're still churning out only 32 layers of brown.

You should take people's advice on caws, seriously, they'd come out so much better if you did.

why don't you take example from wolfgang and the other top caw maker and learn a bit humility......

So take example from myself? When you say other top caw makers, whom exactly are you referring to?

And wolfgang + humility, before you spout names, do a little research first

He was a mod on caws old forum, he was de-modded for banning people that didn't like his caws.... Humility M I RITE!?

[Mustacio]

Zurick, on Nov 11 2008, 02:37 PM, said:

Keibo, on Nov 11 2008, 01:23 AM, said:

Zurick, on Nov 11 2008, 04:20 AM, said:

phew, rumor had it you were going to 360, I was afraid to see 64 layers of crap, but I'm glad to see you're still churning out only 32 layers of brown.

You should take people's advice on caws, seriously, they'd come out so much better if you did.

why don't you take example from wolfgang and the other top caw maker and learn a bit humility......

So take example from myself? When you say other top caw makers, whom exactly are you referring to?

And wolfgang + humility, before you spout names, do a little research first

He was a mod on caws old forum, he was de-modded for banning people that didn't like his caws.... Humility M I RITE!?

Listen, man. If you don't have any constructive critisism or advice to contribute with, just stay out of the topic. The first post you made here was totally uncalled for, I realise you don't like StacysMikeyboy&hearts, but jeez, man, just give it a rest and steer clear of his topics. There honestly isn't any reason to come here looking for trouble.

[Zurick Still Saves]

There was a point I stopped giving him advice, I think it was after his 1746th bad caw and 173rd bad bret hart in a row...

But, I'm gonna keep spouting the basic message until it sinks in.

Effort

[Mustacio]

There's a difference between being persistant and just being a dick, Zurick -.-.

You know as well as I do that no-one is benifitting from you telling Mike his caws are shit, despite you saying you think saying it over and over again will have an effect. You're an intelligent guy, you're fully aware of what it is you're doing, and what you're doing isn't trying to help Mikey, don't try to tell me that. If you think it's so important for him to get the message "your caws are shit" send him a PM instead, that's as straight-forward as you can get message-wise; fact...

But I guess it doesn't give you the same satisfaction if the rest of the board isn't witness to your verbal assaults.

Seriously, just... can it, it's uncalled for and it's getting incredibly old -.-

[Stacysmikeyboy&hearts]

tried to go a different route with this one so here's how it looks:

[™☆The GTS☆™]

i see a canny bit of Goldberg in this, you've improved a lot imo Mikey from last year, even at the end of last year you started to improve a lot, maybe reduce mouth angle as it's making him look weird imo, still fiddle with the skin, andmaybe add a face paint or some designs?? i'm sure you can figure it out MikeyBoy, all in all, imo nice start mikey, has a lot of potential here

[Smoke.]

bro your improving in this caw alot, i would like the form.

[WolfgangJT]

Zurick, on Nov 11 2008, 07:37 AM, said:

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He was a mod on caws old forum, he was de-modded for banning people that didn't like his caws.... Humility M I RITE!?

OT: might wanna get the right story, and not the he said she siad version...Tom demodded me for not reporting that I banned London...and I banned him for over 10 accountable topics worth of spamming, only one of them being mine....my demod also almost was reversed when I showed Tom why I banned him, btw. Only a group vote kept it from happening, which by that point *London was one of the ones voting, so doesn't take a genius there. The demod though was due to my failure to report my bannings correctly and due to me getting in spats on the board itself and not in PM's (which wasn't the way they wanted a Gmod to do), per Tom himself.


On Topic...work more on the lower jaw setting (make it more tapered if possible), and definitely work on the eyes (you have them drooping...his are leveled looking with a very slight up angle). Also angle the eyebrows a tad more, and widen the nose (you have the bridge area too thin as well as the nostril area). I'd also bring the cheek y-axis up more so the upper cheek doesn't have quite as much of a poofy look to it, and take some of the angling off the mouth. The issue with the mouth being that angled though is that you have the eyebrows at a neutral angle...which just gives a weird look overall to it...if you are planning to have it look angry/frowned, you also need to have the eyebrows having a bit more of an anger look in them by angling them more.


Btw, if you want some really good refs:

This post has been edited by WolfgangJT: 11 November 2008 - 09:11 PM

[Moneyslap03]

thanks for taking my advice about the NUT head shape

[Ethay Overnorgay ofway aws]

Let say a very old looking Goldberg.

[Stacysmikeyboy&hearts]

[Mustacio]

It's closer, but you really need to pay more attention to the refs, Wolfgang posted probably the most epic collection of goldberg refs, and you still got the eye-makeup's color wrong.. There isn't a single ref in the picture where the area just around his eyes is that light compared to the rest of his face. It's been improved greatly, but you -really- should pay closer attention to ref pics.

[™☆The GTS☆™]

I agree with mustacio, and maybe make his beard a bit more brown, aswell as grey..

[Sandman!™]

theres something about the mouth around that area the beard changes shape uhh mabey make the mouth width shorter, or change facial hair.

any attire plans yet?