Total Lost Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 [b] Update:[/b] Some may still undergo some changes in the future Raven (bald) and Sting both look a lot better in game imo. [b]Some of the colors may be slightly off (within the formula), I blame the game for making it hard to get the actual color configurations because it changes every time you look at it...Images slightly stretched, so his head isnt really that long...Also if his eyes are the wrong color...Change it -__- If you happen to find anything in the formula from which you think is wrong (when comparing it to the pictures) let me know and I'll check. [/b] [b][u]Raven – Serotonin[/u][/b] [b]CREDIT: Total Lost[/b] Pics: [url="http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y87/totallost/SvR2007/Raven-Serotonin.png"]http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y87/total...n-Serotonin.png[/url] Help pics: [url="http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y87/totallost/SvR2007/Raven-Serotoninhelp.png"]http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y87/total...rotoninhelp.png[/url] [u]Face Parts:[/u] Hair 39 – Stylize to wide version (83,-13)40,-100 Eyes 2 (90,8)11 Eyebrows 1 (91,-4)14 Lips 1 Face Skin 1 Eyelashes 1 Teeth 1 [u]Head morphing:[/u] Head –4,4,0 Forehead 47,-100,61,-7 [u]Face morphing:[/u] - Eyebrows –100,-17,0,27 - Eyes 0,-29,-9,62,-1,0,-47 - Nose 100,-40,89,-16,16,-54,-22,7 - Cheeks –5,61,11,-13 - Mouth 75,-5,-42,0,0,47,-89 - Jaw 16,86,0,-7,6,0 - Ear 0,0,0,0 - Aging 40 [u]Body type 25 [/u] - Neck –58,10,0 - Chest 0,0,8 - Shoulder 0,0,0 - Abdomen 0,17,12 - Waist 32,0 - Arms –25,-1,-3 - Hands 0,0,0 - Legs –24,0,0 - Feet 0,0,0 [b]Body skin [/b]4 (3rd color from the top) [b]Body hair[/b] 1 [b]Body height[/b] 6’1†Shirt 10 – pattern 43 – Stylize to the tight version (93,-100)23,100,9 Pattern # 1 – design 104 (-19,-100)-34,100 - Horizontal: biggest size - Vertical: biggest size Pattern # 2 – design 104 (-19,-100)-34,100 - Horizontal: biggest size - Vertical: biggest size Mask 13 (-13,-100)-87,100 Pattern # 3 – design 97 (92,-50)32,94 - Horizontal: biggest size - Vertical: biggest size Pattern # 4 – design 97 (92,-47)27,91 - Horizontal: biggest size - Vertical: biggest size Pattern # 5 – design 103 (93,-51)24,89 - Horizontal: 2nd biggest size - Vertical: 2nd smallest size Make up 58 (92,6)-16,76 Pattern # 6 – design 93 (88,-20)17,0 - Horizontal: 2nd smallest size - Vertical: 2nd smallest size Piercing 9 (76,0)-69 Arm tattoo 68 (r.only) (-100,-50)-34,0 Elbow pads 2 (-13,-100)-75,100 Wristbands 6 (-13,-100)-36,100,35 Gloves 6 (-13,-100)-37 Pattern # 7 – WWE 16 (93,0)-77,3 - Horizontal: 2nd smallest size - Vertical: 2nd smallest size Shoes 1 Pants 29 – pattern 43 (93,-100)0 Shirt 25 – pattern 43 (93,-100)-5 Pattern # 8 – design 93 (-19,-100)-55,30 - Horizontal: biggest size - Vertical: 2nd smallest size Shirt 22 – pattern 43 (93,-100)21,100 Jacket 5 (93,-100)14 <<<Entrance & cutscene only>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [b][u]Raven – bald attire[/u] CREDIT: Total Lost[/b] Pics: [url="http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y87/totallost/SvR2007/Raven-bald.png"]http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y87/total.../Raven-bald.png[/url] Help pics: [url="http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y87/totallost/SvR2007/Raven-baldhelp.png"]http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y87/total...en-baldhelp.png[/url] [u]Face Parts:[/u] Hair 49 (87,010)12 Eyes 2 (100,7)-20 Eyebrows 1 (90,-4)14 Lips 1 (95,0)0 Face Skin 1 Eyelashes 1 Teeth 1 [u]Head morphing:[/u] Head –4,4,0 Forehead 47,-100,61,-7 [u]Face morphing:[/u] - Eyebrows –100,-17,0,27 - Eyes 0,-29,-9,62,-1,0,-47 - Nose 100,-40,89,-16,16.-54,-22,7 - Cheeks –5,61,11,-13 - Mouth 69,-5,-42,0,0,47,-89 - Jaw 15,63,0,-13,-1,0 - Ear 2,3,0,0 - Aging 40 [u]Body type 20 [/u] - Neck –58,10,0 - Chest 0,-14,8 - Shoulder 0,0,0 - Abdomen 0,15,12 - Waist 19,0 - Arms –25,-1,-3 - Hands 0,0,0 - Legs –24,0,0 - Feet 0,0,0 [b]Body skin 1[/b] (3rd color from the top) [b]Body hair[/b] 1 [b]Body height [/b]6’1†Other facial hair 11 (89,0)-16,10 Sideburns 1 (90,0)-12,6 Piercing 9 (76,0)-42 Pattern # 1 – design 103 (91,-51)24,89 - Horizontal: 2nd biggest size - Vertical: 2nd smallest size Pattern # 2 – design 103 (91,-51)25,50 - Horizontal: 2nd smallest size - Vertical: 2nd biggest size Make up 61 (92,0)-49,93 Pattern # 3 – design 93 (88,-20)17,0 - Horizontal: 2nd smallest size - Vertical: 2nd smallest size Pattern # 4 – WWE 23 (93,-29)-92,4 - Horizontal: 2nd smallest size - Vertical: 2nd smallest size Pattern # 5 – WWE 12 (96,23)0,0 - Horizontal: 2nd biggest size - Vertical: 2nd smallest size Pattern # 6 – design 40 (95,-11)-13,25 - Horizontal: 2nd biggest size - Vertical: 2nd smallest size Pattern # 7 – design 133 (-80,-41)-47,0 - Horizontal: 2nd smallest size - Vertical: biggest size Pattern # 8 – design 133 (100,-28)-24,0 - Horizontal: 2nd biggest size - Vertical: 2nd biggest size Pattern # 9 – WWE 12 (-14,0)-20,0 - Horizontal: smallest size - Vertical: smallest size Pattern # 10 – WWE 43 (90,-59)-59,0 - Horizontal: 2nd smallest size - Vertical: 2nd biggest size Kneepads 15 (-13,-78)-74,100 Shoes 1 Pants 11 – pattern 36 (-20,-10)-26 Arm tattoo 68 (r.only) (-100,-50)-34,0 Elbow pads 2 (-13,-78)-75,100 Wristbands 6 (-13,-100)-36,100,35 Gloves 6 (-13,-100)-37 Pattern # 11 – WWE 16 (93,0)-77,3 - Horizontal: 2nd smallest size - Vertical: 2nd smallest size -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [b][u]Sting[/u] CREDIT: Total Lost[/b] Pics: [url="http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y87/totallost/SvR2007/Sting.png"]http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y87/total...R2007/Sting.png[/url] Help pics: [url="http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y87/totallost/SvR2007/Stinghelp.png"]http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y87/total...7/Stinghelp.png[/url] [u]Face Parts:[/u] Hair 17 (91,-11)-37 Eyes 2 (-6,-27)-21 Eyebrows 1 Lips 1 Face Skin 12 Eyelashes 1 Teeth 1 [u]Head morphing:[/u] Head 0,5,-3 Forehead 0,-20,60,-48 [u]Face morphing:[/u] - Eyebrows –26,0,29,57 - Eyes 0,-9,-9,31,10,0,-24 - Nose 0,0,8,0,-7,-3,0,14 - Cheeks –46,41,-2,0 - Mouth 35,-19,-51,0,-2,22,-91 - Jaw 18,20,-18,-10,13,0 - Ear 0,0,0,0 - Aging 32 [u]Body type 32 [/u] - Neck 0,0,0 - Chest –29,2,0 - Shoulder 0,-3,0 - Abdomen 3,4,0 - Waist 0,0 - Arms –9,-14,-14 - Hands 0,0,0 - Legs 0,0,0 - Feet 0,0,0 [b]Body skin[/b] 1 (90,0,0) [b]Body hair [/b]1 [b]Body height[/b] 6’2†Face paint 71 (100,-100)73,100 Face paint 52 (-98,-100)-74,100 Face paint 48 (-93,-100)-64,100 Face paint 135 (96,-78)23,100 Face paint 7 (49,-78)-70,100 Pattern # 1 – design 97 (-19,-86)78,100 - Horizontal: 2nd biggest size - Vertical: biggest size Pattern # 2 – design 103 (-19,-86)78,100 - Horizontal: biggest size - Vertical: biggest size Pattern # 3 – design 97 (-19,-86)78,100 - Horizontal: 2nd biggest size - Vertical: biggest size Face paint 33 (100,0)0,100 Pattern # 4 – design 97 (-19,-86)78,100 - Horizontal: biggest size - Vertical: biggest size Pattern # 5 – design 97 (-19,-86)78,100 - Horizontal: biggest size - Vertical: biggest size Pattern # 6 – design 109 (-19,0)-31,100 - Horizontal: 2nd biggest size - Vertical: biggest size Pattern # 7: design 93 (-19,-100)78,100 - Horizontal: 2nd smallest size - Vertical: biggest size Pattern # 8: design 103 (-19,-86)78,100 - Horizontal: biggest size - Vertical: biggest size Face paint 73 (99,-100)-38,100 Other facial hair 27 (90,-100)-33,100 Costume 11 (-13,-100)-74,100 Tights 1 (-100,-100)-79,100,100 Gloves 13 – pattern 31 (-83,-93)-66 Shoes 1 Leg tattoo 25 (-89,-100)9,100 Coat 2 (-13,-100)-77 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [b][u]Kazarian[/u] CREDIT: Total Lost[/b] Pics: [url="http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y87/totallost/SvR2007/Kazarian.png"]http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y87/total...07/Kazarian.png[/url] Help pics: [url="http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y87/totallost/SvR2007/Kazarianhelp.png"]http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y87/total...azarianhelp.png[/url] [u]Face Parts:[/u] Hair 5 (85,-42)-50 Eyes 2 (92,0)-33 Eyebrows 37 (86,0)0 Lips 1 (93,4)-14 Face Skin 1 Eyelashes 1 Teeth 1 [u]Head morphing:[/u] Head 4,-3,0 Forehead –36,-21,86,-7 [u]Face morphing:[/u] - Eyebrows –100,58,0,0 - Eyes 0,-43,-9,65,-1,0,-6 - Nose 90,54,9,-15,15,-54,-22,9 - Cheeks –4,61,11,-78 - Mouth 73,75,-100,0,16,47,-69 - Jaw 23,35,-58,-37,-39,0 - Ear 0,0,0,0 - Aging 7 [u]Body type 0 [/u] - Neck –61,10,0 - Chest 0,-1,8 - Shoulder 0,-5,0 - Abdomen 22,12,12 - Waist 0,0 - Arms –24,-1,-3 - Hands 0,0,0 - Legs –35,0,0 - Feet 0,0,0 [b]Body skin[/b] 1 (90,10)-9 [b]Body hair[/b] 1 [b]Body height [/b]6’1†Pattern # 1 – design 103 (90,-44)26,50 - Horizontal: 2nd smallest size - Vertical: 2nd biggest size Make up 47 (92,3)-62,69 Make up 22 (88,-2)-5,46 Make up 18 – Stylize biggest cheek/jaw one (91,10)-2,100 Pattern # 2 – design 93 (88,-34)23,0 - Horizontal: 2nd smallest size - Vertical: smallest size Make up 16 (100,-100)-8,30 Pattern # 3 – Sign 1/6, bottom row, last column “||†(90,-18)-13,-60 - Horizontal: biggest size - Vertical: 2nd biggest size Piercing 5 (76,0)-4 Other headware 31 (100,-100)-46 <<<Cutscene only>>> Wristbands 1 (-25,-100)-80,100,51 Wristbands 16 (-13,-77)-69,0 Arm accessories 5 (-100,100)-80,100 Shoes 1 Pants 3 – Stylize to the tightest version (-26,-100)-73 Belts 3 (-100,-100)-57,62 Pattern # 4 – design 99 (-19,-100)-44,100 - Horizontal: biggest size - Vertical: biggest size Pattern # 5 – design 99 (-19,-100)-44,100 - Horizontal: biggest size - Vertical: biggest size Pattern # 6 – design 99 (-19,-100)-44,100 - Horizontal: biggest size - Vertical: biggest size Pattern # 7 – design 10 (-19,-100)41,83 - Horizontal: biggest size - Vertical: smallest size Coat 4 (-13,-100)-77 <<<Cutscene & entrance only>>> Torso accessories 1 – Stylize to short version (83,0)-7,100 <<<Cutscene & entrance only>>> Pattern # 8 – WWE 12 (-100,0)21,100 <<<Cutscene & entrance only>>> - Horizontal: smallest size - Vertical: smallest size -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [b][u]Johnny Devine[/u] CREDIT: Total Lost[/b] Pics: [url="http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y87/totallost/SvR2007/Devine.png"]http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y87/total...2007/Devine.png[/url] Help pics: [url="http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y87/totallost/SvR2007/Devinehelp.png"]http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y87/total.../Devinehelp.png[/url] [u]Face Parts:[/u] Hair 38 (89,-9)-14,-100 Eyes 2 (4,0)-17 Eyebrows 1 Lips 26 (95,3)-27 Face Skin 12 Eyelashes 1 Teeth 1 [u]Head morphing:[/u] Head –5,0,0 Forehead 11,-43,47,-13 [u]Face morphing:[/u] - Eyebrows –51,-45,0,83 - Eyes 0,-13,13,47,-1,0,-2 - Nose 62,96,82,2,9,-56,-22,7 - Cheeks –3,100,10,-13 - Mouth 0,-42,-33,0,0,46,-72 - Jaw 50,45,0,-29,6,0 - Ear 0,0,0,0 - Aging 14 [u]Body type 13 [/u] - Neck –58,10,0 - Chest 0,0,8 - Shoulder 0,-22,0 - Abdomen –29,14,12 - Waist 0,0 - Arms –25,-1,-3 - Hands 0,0,0 - Legs –46,0,0 - Feet 0,0,0 [b]Body skin[/b] 1 (3rd color from the top) [b]Body hair[/b] 29 (90,-3)9 [b]Body height[/b] 5’10†Face paint 41 (90,0)24,66 Face paint 84 (92,-100)-92,92 Pattern # 1 – design 103 (-19,-100)-32,100 - Horizontal: biggest size - Vertical: 2nd biggest size Pattern # 2 – design 95 (-19,-86)78,100 - Horizontal: biggest size - Vertical: 2nd biggest size Pattern # 3 – design 95 (-19,-86)78,100 - Horizontal: biggest size - Vertical: 2nd biggest size Pattern # 4 – design 95 (-19,-86)78,100 - Horizontal: biggest size - Vertical: 2nd smallest size Pattern # 5 – design 95 (-19,-86)78,100 - Horizontal: biggest size - Vertical: 2nd smallest size Pattern # 6 – WWE 17 (100,86)-15,100 - Horizontal: smallest size - Vertical: biggest size Make up 62 (94,-100)-74,100 Pattern # 7 – Alph. 8/14, “M†(100,-3)-2,84 - Horizontal: biggest size - Vertical: biggest size Other facial hair 27 (88,-3)0,46 Sideburns 14 (89,0)-3,85 Other facial hair 15 (91,0)0,18 Goatee 6 (90,0)0,35 Pattern # 8 – WWE 23 (89,-42)-77,66 - Horizontal: 2nd biggest size - Vertical: 2nd biggest size Pattern # 9 – WWE 23 (89,-42)-77,66 - Horizontal: 2nd biggest size - Vertical: 2nd biggest size Shoes 2 – Stylize short (-13,-100)-74 Gloves (13,-100)-75 Pants 1 – pattern 43 (-40,-23)-72 <Change the existing underwear to Underwear 4 – pattern 43 (-42,-23)-75 Pattern # 10 – WWE 43 (-100,-3)-42,0 - Horizontal: smallest size - Vertical: 2nd smallest size Coat 3 – pattern 44 (-100,-43)-22 <<<Cutscene & entrance only>>> Torso accessories 1 – Stylize short (83,0)0,100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gio The Don Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 9/10 that attire is spot on but i am not keen on that attire but it still is good i cant see anything wrong with that attire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cerebral assassin Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 awsome i love it i been waiting for a good updated raven attire . 10/10 cant see nothing wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simulatedorganizm Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 Looks fantastic. Any reference pics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Truth Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 Legendary caw, keep it up man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDiamondHHH4Life Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 do you have any closer pics? those are small and far away, cant really make anything out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the Fl0ck Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 mine was almost identical but i had to delete it to make room. the formula would be good when you get the chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayDee Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 [quote name='chazmanbloxboy' post='1144741' date='Jan 2 2007, 06:41 AM'][font="Impact"][size=7][/size]wow!!!!!! tht is amazing omg please post the formula!!!!! plz it is very gd ill r8 it 9/10(just 2 b fair) but well done i need a raven (i think u could make a MVP?,JEFF HARDY?,ASHLEY?,CHYNA!!!!,GANGREL?) cos ur so gd (by the way they r some id like 2 c! cya!!!!!!! [/font] [b][/b]wow!!!!!! tht is amazing omg please post the formula!!!!! plz it is very gd ill r8 it 9/10(just 2 b fair) but well done i need a raven (i think u could make a MVP?,JEFF HARDY?,ASHLEY?,CHYNA!!!!,GANGREL?) cos ur so gd (by the way they r some id like 2 c![font="Comic Sans MS"][/font][size="7"][/size] cya [/quote] Please do not make posts with that size of text. Also, you repeated your post, one is big and one is small. Anyway, I cannot really see the face. Can you try to get a close-up on the face please/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Total Lost Posted January 3, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 [url="http://www.tnapics.com/thumbnails.php?album=369"]http://www.tnapics.com/thumbnails.php?album=369[/url] The only shots I have of him in that attire..Hell, I havent even seen anything else (outside of those shots) There are no face shots because I am not happy with it yet, though I guess posting them could give me a better chance of getting some tips... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaBoy Aj Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 Damn, Looking great ... the attire is anyway I'd say thats pretty much spot on - granted like the others it would be nice to see some closer shots and & face pic. Other then that great work so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Thire Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 Nice man! I dont think there are any suggestions just that i dont like that hair. And post the formula. 10/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex5 Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 well, the hair is much too long. great job on the other stuff, but i have an idea for you. noone can really get his forearm tattoos this year, so this is what i do. take away the elbow pads and the arm paint. get wristband number six , and make the lenght so if it is under the glove, it looks like it has no cuts in the wristband(ill put the exact lenght for that band later,), and then under that wristband, put a black one, make it whatever lenght you feel is fine, and then it will look like his elbow pads and wristbands are just close together, if you know what i mean. this will cover his forearm, and make it look realistic. please, tjo, it does look really good....did you use the same morphing as your other raven caw??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dd3d4 5 = One of a kind Posted January 4, 2007 Report Share Posted January 4, 2007 man man thats crazy good 9.5/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IMaSMARTASS4EVA Posted January 4, 2007 Report Share Posted January 4, 2007 I dont see raven. I'm seeing a guy in a white suit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The00Raven00Effect Posted January 4, 2007 Report Share Posted January 4, 2007 [quote name='SmartAss4Life' post='1155603' date='Jan 3 2007, 10:27 PM']I dont see raven. I'm seeing a guy in a white suit[/quote] Raven wears a white suit now, if you've been watching TNA everytime someone in his new flock loses he's wearing that suit and he beats them up with a stick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncannyOneEye Posted January 4, 2007 Report Share Posted January 4, 2007 Will we see any of the other Serotonin membrs made by you Lost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The-Icon Posted January 4, 2007 Report Share Posted January 4, 2007 Thats a 9.5/10.Not a 10/10 no CAW perfect.Except if you use hacks thats a diffrent story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Total Lost Posted January 4, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2007 I'll try the armband thing Practically same morphing, some things slightly altered (waist/abdomen and eye "height") No other Serototin members planned, but this is mostly due to the fact that I can't get any good pictures of them (those on TNApics.com are a bit "meh") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vintage Posted January 4, 2007 Report Share Posted January 4, 2007 bro the black park on his neck are made from simple patterns am i right..cause i used your pics to update your caw of raven to this attire and i just wanted to know that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Total Lost Posted January 4, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2007 Now, I could be wrong here, but IIRC it is just one of the shirts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex5 Posted January 4, 2007 Report Share Posted January 4, 2007 ok i got the wristband thing down... Wristband 1:-100, -100, -80, 100, 70 Wristband 2:-100, -100, 0, 100, 30 Gloves 6:-100, -100, 0 after you get this done, do you have a timestabel on when you are going to post this formula? that caw is the best i have seen so far, and will prolly be the best this year. Please post soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Total Lost Posted January 4, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2007 [quote name='Raven_Rules_2021' post='1159027' date='Jan 4 2007, 10:41 PM']ok i got the wristband thing down... Wristband 1:-100, -100, -80, 100, 70 Wristband 2:-100, -100, 0, 100, 30 Gloves 6:-100, -100, 0 after you get this done, do you have a timestabel on when you are going to post this formula? that caw is the best i have seen so far, and will prolly be the best this year. Please post soon.[/quote] I'll try it, right now I have one wristband (tape) the elbow pad and the gloves, but I'll see how this turns out...Did spend some time just messing around with two other CAWs turning them into some Serotin members...Didnt save them but the Kazarian showed promise...Still if you have some good face pics (right from the side/front) of any of the members, feel free to post them No time table, in fact, I didnt even have time to work on them this past week...Doesnt change the fact that I did so anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex5 Posted January 5, 2007 Report Share Posted January 5, 2007 there is no elbow pad in the thingie, just wristbands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Total Lost Posted January 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2007 I know, just stated the way I have it right now, before trying what you said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex5 Posted January 5, 2007 Report Share Posted January 5, 2007 oh alright . sorry if i sounded like an ass, then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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